FATHER DON: So, we're diving deep today as we gear up for this fifth Sunday of Lent, Year C. And, really focusing in on those lectionary readings, right? Especially that gospel from John chapter 8: The woman caught in adultery.
TONYA: Powerful story.
FATHER DON: you know, we want to make sure you have all the tools and insights you need to craft really impactful homilies for your congregations. And we know each of your communities are so unique. And you all bring such your own perspective and understanding to them. So hopefully we can offer up some new angles, you know, to consider this week as you prepare.
TONYA: It's really interesting how these readings for this particular point in Lent kind of resonate with each other. Like there's this underlying movement from judgment and condemnation to mercy and like a radical new beginning.
FATHER DON: It's a really good point. I hadn't really thought about it like that. So, let's break down that gospel reading a little more. John 8.1:11, we're right there in the temple. Jesus is teaching and then all of a sudden things get really intense. It's like this huge interruption, you know with the scribes and Pharisees bringing in this woman accusing her of adultery.
TONYA: Right. Right. And the gospel makes sure to point out their motivation, too. They're saying they brought her to Jesus to test him. To try and catch him saying something they could use against him, It almost feels less about upholding the law and more about trying to trap him.
FATHER DON: That's such a good point. Cuz it's almost like they're not really concerned about the Mosaic law or her, you know, in that moment. It's more about trying to take Jesus down a notch.
TONYA: Exactly. And then you have that powerful image of Jesus bending down and writing on the ground.
FATHER DON: I love that part. What do you think he was writing?
TONYA: We don't know. It doesn't say.
FATHER DON: It's just silence. You know,
TONYA: But that's what makes it so thoughtprovoking, doesn't it?5
FATHER DON: It really does.
TONYA: All that potential meaning.
FATHER DON: I've heard some people say he was just refusing to engage, you know, with their manipulation.
TONYA: Totally. Like creating space for something different to happen. Others think it was like a symbolic thing.
FATHER DON: Oh, like what?
TONYA: Maybe like a reference to Jeremiah. Where it talks about those who forsake the Lord being written in the dust.
FATHER DON: Wow. I never thought of that.
TONYA: It's really interesting to think about, isn't it? But no matter what he was writing, it definitely deflects their aggression, and maybe even gives them a moment to reflect.
FATHER DON: Right? You know, think about what they're doing.
TONYA: Exactly.
FATHER DON: Then we get to like the real turning point, you know, where they keep pushing him for an answer, and Jesus stands up and says, "Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." I get chills every time I read that.
TONYA: It really cuts to the core of everything, doesn't it?
FATHER DON: It does.Really does. And he doesn't deny sin, you know. He just makes everyone look inward and acknowledge their own faults.
TONYA: They want justice, but Jesus is making them think about their own capacity for judgment.
FATHER DON: It's such a good point for all of us, isn't it? How often are we so quick to judge others? Without examining our own lives first. Then there's this little detail that always gets me. It says they all start to leave, one by one, beginning with the elders.
TONYA: It's so interesting that the elders leave first,
FATHER DON: Like the ones who are supposed to be the wisest and most knowledgeable;, They're the first ones to walk away.
TONYA: It's like they recognize the weight of Jesus's words and their own vulnerability.
FATHER DON: It's powerful stuff.
TONYA: It really is. It's like a moment of self-awareness. Where their authority is challenged not by force but by their own conscience.
FATHER DON: Then it's just Jesus and the woman left. And he asks her, woman, where are they? And to greet it, has no one condemned you? And she says, "No one, sir." And Jesus says, "Neither do I condemn you. Go and from now on, do not sin anymore."
TONYA: Oh, so powerful.
FATHER DON: So much mercy. But also a call to change.
TONYA: It's not just letting her off the hook, you know, it's setting her free from that condemnation and also expecting her to transform her life.
FATHER DON: Absolutely. And that command, go and from now on sin no more. It's such a Lenten theme, isn't it?
TONYA: It really is. Repentance and conversion at its core.
FATHER DON: So, how do you think all of this ties in with Isaiah 43? Because on the surface, they seem pretty different.
TONYA: Yeah, you're right. But when you look at the themes, Isaiah talks about God doing a new thing.
FATHER DON: Right? Making a way in the wilderness.
TONYA: Yes. Providing water in the desert.
FATHER DON: And Jesus is doing the same for this woman.
TONYA: Totally. He's giving her a new way forward. Yeah. A chance to escape that condemnation.
FATHER DON: Like her past doesn't have to define her.
TONYA: Exactly. Just like God says, "Remember not the events of the past." This woman is given a chance for a fresh start.
FATHER DON: Through Jesus! It's like those accusers were so focused on her past that they couldn't see the grace right in front of them.
TONYA: They were blinded by their judgment.
FATHER DON: And that image of God, you know, providing water in the desert for his people. It's like the spiritual nourishment we get through forgiveness.
TONYA: I like that. It's so powerful,
FATHER DON: Especially during Lent, you know. You know, yeah, it reminds us that even when we feel spiritually dry, God's grace is always there to renew us.
TONYA: Absolutely.
FATHER DON: Okay. So, what about Philippians 3?
TONYA: So, we've got Paul and his radical perspective shift.
FATHER DON: He basically says everything he used to value is worthless compared to knowing Christ.
TONYA: It's pretty dramatic.
FATHER DON: It really is like a complete 180.
TONYA: I mean, think about it. His whole life changed. He went from trying to be righteous through the law, to realizing truth true righteousness comes from faith in Christ.
FATHER DON: And it's similar to the gospel, isn't it?
TONYA: How so?
FATHER DON: The scribes and Pharisees are stuck on the law, while Jesus is acting from a place of grace and love.
TONYA: Yeah. It's a deeper principle.
FATHER DON: And Paul says something else that's really powerful. He says, "Forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead."
TONYA: I love that line.
FATHER DON: It's like Jesus telling the woman, "Sin no more." It's about letting go of the past. And moving toward the future. filled with faith, and that commitment to change.
TONYA: And Paul's like constantly chasing after Christ. Yeah. He just wants to be found in him, which shows us that conversion is a journey.
FATHER DON: It's not a one-time thing.
TONYA: Exactly. It's always ongoing.
FATHER DON: Always striving to live closer to Christ.
TONYA: That's a good takeaway for a homily to encourage people to see Lent as an active process of turning back to God.
FATHER DON: Okay. So, how do all of these readings connect to our lives today and to [Catholic] teaching.
TONYA: Well, one thing that really jumps out at me is judgment and hypocrisy.
FATHER DON: Yeah. It's everywhere today, isn't it?
TONYA: It really is in society and even in the church
FATHER DON: And this gospel. It challenges us to look inward.
TONYA: Absolutely. Before we judge others, before we point fingers, we have to examine our own lives.
FATHER DON: And speaking of examining ourselves, the sacrament of reconciliation is such a great example.
TONYA: Oh, it's a perfect example of God's mercy. And it reminds us to have that same compassion for others.
FATHER DON: You know, even when they mess up. And we can't forget about mercy and forgiveness.
TONYA: Yeah. It's at the heart of this gospel.
FATHER DON: Like it really challenges us to live it out
TONYA: in our daily lives.
FATHER DON: Yeah. In our families, in our communities, everywhere.
TONYA: It's what Jesus is all about.
FATHER DON: I think what's really amazing here is how Jesus balances justice and mercy. He doesn't just ignore the sin. But he also doesn't define her by it, It's like he's showing us the nature of God.
TONYA: It really is a God who wants justice. But whose love and redemption are even stronger.
FATHER DON: And that's such a crucial message for Lent.
TONYA: Absolutely.
FATHER DON: We need to preach about that
TONYA: And that call to conversion that we see in the gospel and in Paul's letter.
FATHER DON: That's what Lent is all about, right?
TONYA: Totally. It's not just giving something up. It's about a true transformation of our hearts.
FATHER DON: And the woman in the gospel, she's like a perfect example.
TONYA: She's given a clean slate. A chance to live in that newness of Christ.
FATHER DON: Like what Isaiah was talking about. It makes me think about what I need to change in my own life. To turn more fully towards God—
TONYA: and away from sin.
FATHER DON: This whole encounter, you know, it really shows us the relationship between law and love. Like, Jesus isn't getting rid of the law, but he's fulfilling it through love and mercy.
TONYA: Exactly. Showing us that it's not just about following rules, but about connecting with God, and with each other through compassion.
FATHER DON: And you know, from a Catholic perspective, this shows us the real spirit of the law.
TONYA: It's not about being rigid or harsh. It's about guiding people towards holiness, and Jesus mercy. It's not opposed to God's justice. It's the highest expression of it.
FATHER DON: So, as you're getting ready to write your homilies this week, there are a few key themes to keep in mind. Like God's mercy and forgiveness. They're so powerful and surprising.
TONYA: And how about those new beginnings?
FATHER DON: Yeah, new beginnings through Christ.
TONYA: And let's not forget about self-reflection—
FATHER DON: And how dangerous it is to judge others. We all need to examine our own hearts first, and that constant call to conversion to grow in our faith and ultimately to follow Christ.
TONYA: whose love and redemption changes everything.
FATHER DON: It really does.
TONYA: So as you're preparing, think about this. How can these readings inspire you to preach in a way that really connects with your congregation? How can you help them experience Christ mercy—
FATHER DON: in their own lives—
TONYA: In their everyday struggles and joys.
FATHER DON: And what new thing is God calling them to embrace this Lent?
TONYA: It's a journey towards Easter—
FATHER DON: towards hope and resurrection. Lots to think about this week.
TONYA: It's a beautiful time of year.
FATHER DON: It really is.
TONYA: Full of possibility!
FATHER DON: All right. Thanks for diving deep with us.
TONYA: Anytime. It's been a pleasure.